Chief information officer of OSK Anton Dumin: The era of centralized systems ended
About why tough centralization and complete import substitution in the ship-building industry are impossible, in an interview of TAdviser the director of the department of IT of United Shipbuilding Corporation Anton Dumin told.
What do you think of the idea of centralization of information systems how far this project in OSK promoted?
Anton Dumin: The era centralized ended, I consider. Now there comes the new era, its sense consists in robotization. In centralized systems we want to place in one system all functionality in order that it seamlessly was integrated among themselves. And why to do it? The new technology – RPA, robotization is thought up, but in fact it is automation of process of a knopkonazhimaniye. It allows to move in general to other level without creation of large centralized systems.
We take the robot, we give him a daily task, it can be anything. He can open one system, construct in it the report, unload it, open the second system, construct the report, compare, prepare the final reporting, place it in e-mail and send to the head. Action in itself is always same. Isolate many same actions – it, in principle, is automation of the 21st century.
As for OSK to implement a single system in OSK where some enterprises exist not one century, it is impossible. We thought up a way of creation of centralized systems at which those who want can use it for themselves, and those who do not want are obliged to give the data to a system in the form of an array. And requirements to an array impose restrictions on maturity level to information systems of the enterprises.
There is the main difference. Two postulates: arrays instead of documents and the required set maturity level for ensuring functioning of a common information space. These are two purposes of strategy implementation of OSK for 5 years.
So the enterprises of holding have freedom at the choice of IT systems?
Anton Dumin: In certain types. In strategy it is accurately registered by what types of systems at what level and what data array interaction is followed. Let's say for CRM systems, most likely, there will be one centralized system. If to speak about electronic document management, then they have the right to select the system, but are obliged to provide interaction. On each type of systems different approach.
Or other example. We have an implementation project of the general service center on functions of accounting, personnel office-work, payroll. Also there is a road map according to which inevitably each of the enterprises in the future will be included for interaction with the general service center.
And what you are going to use for this purpose?
Anton Dumin: We signed the agreement on interaction with 1C on PIEF, but it does not mean that all our products will be from this vendor. We have information systems on 1C, one more is planned to implementation. But it is not all systems, we select for implementation only where the functionality is confirmed with successful projects.
In general, for you an import substitution hot topic?
Anton Dumin: And we should not change anything. In it there is also a feature of societies which enter a MIC. There never plainly also was no foreign software. In OSK of import software products - on fingers to count. At the enterprises which long interacted with foreign shipyards or project bureaus the order of use of foreign software could keep within. And generally our shipyards use the Russian products or serious self-written software. Development of own solutions goes already for a long time, there are no problems with their support as based on some institutes training of specialists for service of these software products is conducted.
But there is also other situation. A CAD it is real all foreign. You can call different Russian products, but all of them are a machine-building CAD. Ship-building differ from them as the sky and the earth, are two different approaches. The average vessel has 750 thousand vkhodimost on 27 levels, and this mean value. I do not speak about objects of the increased complexity. We build the most difficult moving technical objects in the world.
In Russia there are attempts, there are practices on creation of a ship-building CAD, but we always slide in mechanical engineering and in work on sections without assembly in whole. In whole it is impossible to collect on the Russian software today.
Separately I want to notice that our task - to build the ships and vessels. Our tasks do not include directly development and testing of this software. When to me come with initiatives, "let's make a domestic ship-building CAD", I am ready to participate in testing of some finished product, I am ready to issue for it requirements. And we agreed with design offices that we will formulate requirements what functionality should be in such product. But after that we are not ready to change at early stages what we use for not debugged and imperfect product.
You spoke about self-written software. Who is engaged in its development? Where it is used at what computing powers?
Anton Dumin: In our industry there is Krylov state scientific center which is focused on accomplishment of such tasks, they have the supercomputer. In project bureaus there are computer systems up to supercomputers. For them are written including own settlement programs, or for interaction with SAPRAMI. It is necessary to write the, certainly, because there are no all functions, especially in shipbuilding, at the moment in one solution.